Syryjski prezydent, Baszar Al-Assad, udzielił wywiadu w Syria TV 31 października 2019 r. Powiedział, że ekstremistyczna doktryna wahabizmu, reprezentowana przez Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadiego i ISIS, będzie nadal istniała także po zniknięciu ISIS. Powiedział, że Al-Baghdadiego wypuszczono z amerykańskiego więzienia w Syrii po to, by przewodził ISIS.  Zapytany, czy Al-Baghdadi naprawdę został zabity przez Amerykanów, prezydent Al-Assad powiedział, że może już nie żył, a może został porwany, ukryty lub chirurgicznie zmieniono jego wygląd. Powiedział, że amerykańska operacja, by zabić Al-Baghdadiego, była oszukańczą sztuczką i że amerykańska polityka polega na wyobraźni i przypomina  Hollywood. Później w wywiadzie prezydent Al-Assad powiedział, że turecki prezydent, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, jest wrogiem Syrii i że amerykański prezydent, Donald Trump, jest najlepszym prezydentem jakiego Ameryka kiedykolwiek miała, ponieważ jest przejrzysty w sprawie amerykańskiej polityki i amerykańskich interesów na Bliskim Wschodzie.  

Ponadto prezydent Al-Assad powiedział, że chociaż Turcja okupuje część Syrii, negocjacje z nią nie znaczą, że Syria mogłaby także prowadzić negocjacje z Izraelem jako państwem i Izraelczykami jako narodem w sposób, w jaki robi to z Turcją i z Turkami. Powiedział także, że Syria chce stopniowo odzyskać suwerenność w Kurdystanie. Dalej prezydent Al-Assad powiedział, że wpływ Izraela jest zawsze obecny w Syrii, że udział Izraela w syryjskiej wojnie domowej jest oczywistością mimo że nie był otwarcie widoczny, i że wszystko, co działo się w Syrii, służyło interesom Izraela poprzez jego marionetki, agentów lub Stany Zjednoczone. Wersja wywiadu z angielskimi podpisami została zamieszczona na kanale YouTube prezydentury syryjskiej.

Aby zobaczyć klip z syryjskim prezydentem Baszarem Al-Assadem w MEMRI TV, kliknij tutaj lub poniżej.

[Ciąg dalszy tekstu nie jest spolszczony]

„It Is Well-Known That [Al-Baghdadi] Was In American Prisons In Iraq, And That They Let Him Out In Order To Play This Role”

Bashar Al-Assad: „First, Baghdadi represents ISIS, and ISIS represents a type of doctrine, which is the extremist Wahhabi doctrine. This type of thought is more than two centuries old. As long as this thought is alive and has not receded, this means that the death of Baghdadi, or even the death of ISIS as a whole, will have no effect on this extremist thought. Regarding Baghdadi as an individual, it is well-known that he was in American prisons in Iraq, and that they let him out in order to play this role. So, he is someone who could be replaced at any moment.”

„Was [Al-Baghdadi] Really Killed? Was He Killed But Through A Different Method, In A Very Ordinary Way? Was He Kidnapped? Was He Hidden? Or Was He Removed And Given A Facelift? God Only Knows”

„Was he really killed? Was he killed but through a different method, in a very ordinary way? Was he kidnapped? Was he hidden? Or was he removed and given a facelift? God only knows. American politics are no different from Hollywood; it relies on the imagination. Not even science fiction, just mere imagination. So, you can take American politics and see it in Hollywood or else you can bring Hollywood and see it through American politics. I believe the whole thing regarding this operation is a trick.

„Baghdadi will be recreated under a different name, a different individual, or ISIS in its entirety might be reproduced as needed under a different name but with the same thought and the same purpose. The director of the whole scenario is the same, the Americans.


„We Must Remember That Erdoğan Aimed, From The Beginning Of The War, To Create A Problem Between The Syrian People And The Turkish People”

„We must remember that Erdoğan aimed, from the beginning of the war, to create a problem between the Syrian people and the Turkish people, to make it an enemy, which will happen through a military clash. At the beginning of the war, the Turkish Army supported the Syrian Army and cooperated with us to the greatest possible extent, until Erdoğan’s coup against the Army. Therefore, we must continue in this direction, and ensure that Turkey does not become an enemy state. Erdoğan and his group are enemies, because he leads these policies, but until now most of the political forces in Turkey are against Erdoğan’s policies. So, we must ensure not to turn Turkey into an enemy, and here comes the role of friends – the Russian role and the Iranian role.”


„I Say That [President Trump] Is The Best American President, Not Because His Policies Are Good, But Because He Is The Most Transparent President”

„As for Trump, you might ask me a question and I give you an answer that might sound strange. I say that he is the best American President, not because his policies are good, but because he is the most transparent president. All American presidents perpetrate all kinds of political atrocities and all crimes and yet still win the Nobel Prize and project themselves as defenders of human rights and noble and unique American values, or Western values in general. The reality is that they are a group of criminals who represent the interests of American lobbies, such as the large oil and arms companies, and others. Trump talks transparently, saying that what [America] wants is oil. This is the reality of American policy, at least since WWII. [They] want to get rid of such and such a person or [to] offer a service in return for money. This is the reality of American policy. What more do we need [other] than a transparent opponent?


„If you are asking me how I would I feel if I, personally, had to shake hands with a person from the Erdoğan group, or someone of similar leanings or who represents his ideology – I would not be honored by such a meeting and I would feel disgusted. But we have to put our personal feelings aside when there is a national interest at stake. If a meeting would achieve results, I would say that everything done in the national interest should be done. This is the responsibility of the state.”


„The Difference Between Them And Israel Is That We Do Not Recognize The Legitimacy Of Its Existence As A State, We Don’t Recognize The Existence Of The Israeli People”

Interviewer: „The sensitive question in this regard is: the Turks are occupiers, so if I am willing, or if I have the chance, or if I believe that I might meet [with] the Turks, the Turks are occupiers, exactly like Israelis, so it would [thus] be possible to meet [with] the Israelis. This is a sensitive issue, but it is being raised.”

Bashar Al-Assad: „It was actually raised when we started these meetings. How can we meet occupiers in Afrin or other areas, even if there are not occupiers, they support terrorism – they are enemies in the national sense. The difference between them and Israel is that we do not recognize the legitimacy of its existence as a state. We don’t recognize the existence of the Israeli people. There is no Israeli people except the one that existed for several centuries BC, and now they are a diaspora who came and occupied land and evicted its people. [Meanwhile], the Turkish people exist, and they are a neighboring people, and we have a common history, regardless of whether this history is good or bad or in between – that is irrelevant. Turkey exists as a state and it is a neighboring state. The Alexandretta issue is different from the situation in which a people without land replace a land and a people. The comparison is not valid. Even when we negotiated with Israel in the 1990s, we did not recognize it. We negotiated in order to achieve peace. If this was achieved and the rights were returned, we would recognize it. As I said, the comparison is invalid. Turkey will continue to exist and the Turks should remain a brotherly people.


„The only Russian agreement with the Kurds was what we talked about in terms of a Russian role in reaching an agreement with Kurdish groups – we should not say with the Kurds, because this is inaccurate and we cannot talk about one segment. The groups which call themselves SDF with the Syrian Army to be deployed. Of course, the Syrian Army cannot be deployed only to carry out purely security or military acts. The deployment of the Syrian Army is an expression of the presence of the Syrian state, which means the presence of all the services which should be provided by the state. This agreement was concluded, and we reached most regions, but not completely. There are still obstacles. We intervene because we have direct and old relations – [since] before the Turkish incursion – with these groups. Sometimes they respond, in other places they don’t. But certainly, the Syrian Arab Army will reach these areas simultaneously with full public services, which means the return of full state authority. I want to reiterate that this should take place gradually. Second, the situation will not return as before. There are facts on the ground which need to be addressed, and this will take time. There are new facts related to people on the ground which took place when the state was absent. There are armed groups. We do not expect them to hand over their weapons immediately. Our policy should be gradual and rational, and should take the facts into account. But the ultimate goal is to return to the situation as it used to be previously, which is the full control of the state.”


Israel „Is The Always-Present, It Has Never Been Absent… We Fight Its Proxies, Agents, Flunkies, Or Tools In Different Ways, Some Military [And] Some Political”

Interviewer: „Concerning Israel, some people describe is as the absent present in the events in Syria, [and] the greatest beneficiary of what happened in Syria. Indeed, it is more comfortable now than in any other time before, in comparison with weakening Syria, Hizbullah, and Iran, as analysts say.”

Bashar Al-Assad: „It is the always-present. It has never been absent. It might be absent in terms of language, because we fight its proxies, agents, flunkies, or tools in different ways, some military [and] some political. They are all tools serving Israel directly or through the Americans. Since the battle on the ground is with these forces, it is normal that the terminology describes these forces and not Israel. Israel is in fact a main partner in what is happening, and as an enemy state, that is expected. Will it stand by and watch? No. It will be proactive, and more effective in order to strike at Syria, the Syrian people, the Syrian homeland and everything related to Syria.”

Interviewer: „Benefiting practically from what happened?”

Bashar Al-Assad: „This is self-evident. Even if we do not discuss it, it is one of our national givens in Syria.